The Sequel Trilogy Post Mortem + Hasbro reveals – SWR #449

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Riley: Lego Star Wars D+

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Hello.

I enjoy your show and have written to you in the past. Below are some of the reasons why I think the Star Wars sequel trilogy didn’t work for a lot of people. I don’t think these are necessarily bad ideas, but ideas that were executed very poorly and sloppily. Stay safe in this garbage fire of a year we’re living in.

-Tristan

p.s. I may not have been entirely sober while writing this

 

 

  • No plan
  • I think this speaks for itself…
  • You don’t ‘need’ a plan to have a successful series, but when the writers and directors of subsequent movies seem to want to do conflicting things with the story and characters it becomes a mess
  • Conflicting writer/directors
  • One likes asking questions with no plans of answers
  • The other openly stated he doesn’t care about continuity or multi-movie storytelling (this is my recollection of interviews, I could easily be wrong)
  • feels like bad improv
  • No context from the beginning
  • Who are the first order, and where did they come from, and why does everyone in the movie seem to know while the audience does not?
  • What’s happened in the past 30-ish years?
  • Who’s in charge of the galaxy?
  • Seemingly there is a republic government that is destroyed in the same scene that they are introduced…
  • Why is there a “resistance” and not a proper military?
  • Palpatine returns from nowhere with no hinting or leadup
  • The first order is now the final order and Kylo needs the final order fleet even though it seems that the first order already has a huge fleet and is in control of the galaxy?
  • The first of the sequels is a remake
  • I don’t think this is inherently terrible for the first half, but then the planet sized spherical super weapon is destroyed by a handful of one man fighters flying through a trench… it feels more like a repeat than a continuation.
  • Caring more about spectacle than why anything is happening
  • How many individual scenes are visually interesting, but upon reflection don’t make a lot of scene?
  • Lack of consequences for the good guys and overabundance of convenience
  • At the end of VII Finn was slashed by Kylos lightsaber to the point of being unconscious and possibly almost dead, and he’s perfectly fine in the beginning of VIII
  • At the end of VIII all that is left of the resistance can fit on the falcon, but at the beginning of IX they’re back up to full force
  • Chewie is blown up by Reys force lightning, but he’s not actually dead
  • C3P0 has to sacrifice himself to save the galaxy… but he backed up in R2D2 so it doesn’t matter
  • Zori is about to capture Rey and company to turn them in for the bounty, but Rey beats her and says they should be friends, so they are… and zori gives Poe her magic disk…
  • The lead character never looses
  • I don’t recall Rey sustaining anything more than a scratch, or being slightly let down by being told ‘her parents were no one’ (which ends up being somewhat of a lie)
  • In direct contrast:
  • In the original trilogy Luke confronts Vader, gets his ass handed to him, has his hand cut off, finds out his father is one of the most evil people in the galaxy, and decides he’d rather be dead than join him

 

 

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